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>The forwarded message confirms that depleted uranium munitions are being
>used in Yugoslavia. The forwarded email was received from
>du-list.egroups.com. The confirmation URL
>(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/docs99/t05031999_t0503asd.htm) is on
>http://www.fas.org which is the Federation of American Scientists
>(presumably reliable).
>
>Major General Wald says: "Yes. And the 30mm on the A-10. I think it's
>almost -- I've heard that
>question a lot, and I've been thinking about it. I've been around the
>A-10s for a long time. I
>know that I see the munitions handlers put these bullets in the
>aircraft, holding on to them
>for 20 years, so they've done a lot of scientific studies on these
>things, and there doesn't
>seem to be a problem. So I don't think there's a problem at all with
>that, and it hasn't been a
>problem for any of us, so it's kind of old news."
>
>Major General Wald fails to note that depleted uranium is not
>particularly harmful until it is in the body. And that can happen
>because on detonation, a considerable amount of the depleted uranium is
>turned into dust. Which is very very toxic when it gets inside the body.
>Putting the bullets and shells into the aircraft isn't the dangerous
>part. The dangerous part is after they leave the aircraft or tank, etc.
>And then the danger is ongoing and insidious for as long as the dust can
>make contact with living things. This dust does not break down quickly:
>depleted uranium has a half life of several million years.
>
>Major General Wald is apparently of the opinion that concern about DU is
>overblown since it hasn't hurt the people putting the munitions in the
>airplane. It's old news to him. Which is to say that use of this type of
>weaponry seems to have become almost routine in battle because DU is so
>effective an armor penetrator. It is also very cheap because it is a
>byproduct of making nuclear weapon grade uranium.
>
>Which is even more reason to MAKE VERY PUBLIC the results in Iraq of DU
>use and, more generally, the dangers of DU.
>
>Quite independent of what we feel about the current war in Yugoslavia,
>whether we feel it is justified or not, it is not difficult to argue
>forcefully that use of DU is not justified.
>
>Used in Kosovo, it poisons the very land NATO purports to be saving for
>the Albanian Kosovars.
>
>Use of DU poisons the people and the land for a very long time. Neither
>the Iraqis nor the Serbs deserve this fate. Nor any people. We breathed
>a sigh of relief when the cold war ended that nuclear wastelands were
>less likely. But now they are routinely created in warfare. This has to
>stop. It just has to.
>
>Genocide in one generation is horrible. Genocide over the rest of
>recorded history by poisoning the land and the people is something else.
>We should not be preventing the former by perpetrating the latter.
>
>
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>DoD News Briefing Monday, May 3, 1999
>http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/docs99/t05031999_t0503asd.htm
>
>Q: General, there's been some concern raised in Europe about the 
>possibility of A-10s using the depleted uranium munitions, especially when 
>they go after the armor. Are we using any of these munitions now against 
>the...
>Major General Wald: Yes. And the 30mm on the A-10. I think it's almost -- 
>I've heard that question a lot, and I've been thinking about it. I've been 
>around the A-10s for a long time. I know that I see the munitions handlers 
>put these bullets in the aircraft, holding on to them for 20 years, so 
>they've done a lot of scientific studies on these things, and there doesn't 
>seem to be a problem. So I don't think there's a problem at all with that, 
>and it hasn't been a problem for any of us, so it's kind of old news.
>Q: What kind of damage (inaudible)?
>Major General Wald: From what I understand, he had some engine problems and 
>a little bit of external damage to the aircraft.
>Q: (inaudible) obviously, and landed safely?
>Major General Wald: Yes, that's right.
>Q: I want to make sure that I understand General Wald on one point. The DU 
>shells. Have the A-10s actually been firing them in addition to simply 
>carrying them?
>Major General Wald: Yes.
>Q: They have been.
>http://www.defenselink.mil/news/May1999/t05031999_t0503asd.html
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